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Splitting A Huge bedroom into office & bedroom

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  1. Aug 22, 2013
    Nifty

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    We have a huge bedroom in our house. I've always wished it was two rooms, especially because the house is 3 bedroom. The master, an office and then we'd love to split the big room for our two girls. Unfortunately to split it into two rooms we'd have to extend the hallway, which would take away room from the master bedroom.

    We were going to just divide the room with dressers and allow access to the back portion via the exiting door, then my oldest would have to walk through the room of the youngest. :(

    Then my wife had an epipheny!! She said, "Why not split the room, make the entrance from our bedroom, and just use the smaller portion for your office. That way the girls can have their own bedrooms!"

    It was SUCH a brilliant idea!!! Here's the plan:

    Top line: Add a full wall
    Bottom line: Add a door between master and new office

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    Here's the new wall going up:
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    Girls with grandpa watching the new door getting cut into the wall:
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    Nifty, Aug 22, 2013
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  2. Aug 22, 2013
    elevan

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    What a great idea!
     
    elevan, Aug 22, 2013
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  3. Aug 22, 2013
    Nifty

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    UGH, I just noticed the insulation is upside-down!!! GRR!!! :mad:


    :p :D
     
    Nifty, Aug 22, 2013
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  4. Aug 22, 2013
    elevan

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    LOL
     
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  5. Aug 23, 2013
    Sumi

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    It's a great idea! (The division, not the upside down insulation :p)
     
    Sumi, Aug 23, 2013
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    Canesisters

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    Ok.. gotta ask.. why does it matter if the insulation is upside down???
     
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    HayZee518

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    doesn't matter if the insulation is upside down or rightside up. what does matter is which way the vapor barrier [kraft paper] is facing. because this is an inside wall, the kraft should face both sides. in other words use a double thickness of insulation. this will afford sound deadening if any. you may even get away with it by using a non faced product and line both sides with a poly sheet. insulation prevents air movement between two areas. i.e. an outside wall and an inside wall where there is a temperature difference. when you install heat [forced air] into the bedroom you'll have to take into account the cfm of the furnace. merely splitting a trunk line to feed two rooms may not work. you may need two separate lines off the plenum with a cold air return in each bedroom. if you use a joist space in the floor as a common cold air return, cutting in a register may work as it all goes back to the furnace.
     
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    Nifty

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    Sorry, I was totally kidding about the upside-down part.

    Good point about CFM for the rooms. I figure that the CFM was designed for the whole room prior to the split, so in theory it should be "close enough" for the two rooms that equal the same amount of space as before.
     
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    Danny Brown

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    It's probably to late now, cause I see drywall standing there but you actually should remove the paper facing from the insulation.
     
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    Nifty

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    Ya, too late now. :D

    It's got paper on both sides and I'm not too worried about the moisture issues since we're in such a temperate climate.
     
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    HayZee518

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    Something else to consider is the number of outlets in the room and one more issue. First with the outlets - a minimum of six inches of un-jacketed cable inside the box, secondly - a staple within 8 inches of a box. any box. Lighting - a switched lighting fixture -or- a switched outlet somewhere in the room. A split wired outlet will do. If this room will house a computer a CAT-5E cable will behoove you. A whole house surge protector will also help you. Also, mind you, the circuit feeding this room must be an AFCI type breaker. Spacing between outlets no more than 6 feet measured horizontally along ANY unbroken wall space.
     
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  12. Sep 16, 2013
    Nifty

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    Great stuff, thanks!!
     
    Nifty, Sep 16, 2013
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  13. Oct 2, 2013
    Nifty

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    Things are progressing nicely.

    • Canned lights installed,
    • switch installed
    • carpet removed,
    • carpet tack board, pad, pad staples (what a pain those were) also removed.
    • door painted (that always takes longer than I expect it to

    Todo:
    • fill in 1/4 floorboard missing pieces (where walls used to be)
    • Lay laminate flooring from Costco
    • Trim around door
    • Install door hardware
    • Run LAN cable
    • Furniture

    Here it is (before carpet pad staples removed):

    office-2.jpg office-1.jpg
     
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  14. Oct 3, 2013
    Sumi

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    It's a nice space. I can't wait to see it when it's done!
     
    Sumi, Oct 3, 2013
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  15. Oct 9, 2013
    Nifty

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    Slowly but surely...

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  16. Oct 10, 2013
    Sumi

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    Getting there :thumbsup
     
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  17. Oct 17, 2013
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    Looking good! :thumbsup
     
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    Kelly

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    Looks great. It's going to be a really nice office when you are finished.
     
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    OldGuy43

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    Looks good Nifty. One question; Did you allow for heating and cooling vents in both rooms?
     
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    Nifty

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    Great question!!!

    The big room had one vent so after the split only my office has a vent, so we'll probably need to add a vent to the other side now (daughters room). That room is closer to a bunch of other rooms with vents, so it may actually be okay, especially since our climate is relatively moderate.
     
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