DH and DS spent the greater part of today doing plumbing. It is time. We did all the plumbing ourselves when we built this house (starting) in 1977 and this is the first time we've had to replace any of the fixtures. A pretty good run of luck -- or quality products -- that couldn't last forever. My tub/shower was leaking into the basement. After calling the Moen help line and being told, "There IS no plan B" when the faucet cartridge was stuck, the guys decided to replace the whole tub/shower system. I picked up a new faucet yesterday. Of course, the fittings HAD to be different! Which means all the fittings we had needed to be changed. I was the gopher, as usual. While I went for the needed parts they attacked DH's bathroom faucet. It seems that it started leaking a bit 2-4 years ago so DH turned off the water and used a kitchen bowl with water from the tub spout. They fixed the problem with a new faucet. Of course, there was one missing part -- a water inlet pipe. I came home with the needed parts and fast-food lunch. Then I was off again for the water pipe and to get some galvanized pipe cut and rethreaded to fit the new tub faucet. By the time I returned, the guys had replaced a faucet with corrosion in the half bath. Finally, they had everything they needed to finish the first job and all three new faucets were in place and working properly. I'm happy with the work!